The leader of Hamas in Gaza is a man named Yaya Sinwar.

And recently, our colleague Rory Jones has been able to review dozens of Synwar's private messages,

with ceasefire negotiators, Hamas members outside of Gaza and others.

Throughout this conflict, we even know, others. communicating. And we've been tracking that and tried to tie all that together and provide a picture of a man that is leading this war in Gaza for Hamas.

The picture of the is paint is a complicated one.

Gaza is in ruins.

An estimated 37,000 people are dead according to Palestinian officials.

But according to those messages,

Sinwar believes Hamas is winning.

In one message that Roy saw,

Sinwar recently said, quote,

we have the Israelis right where we want them.

In some ways, it's like shocking, isn't it?

It's like, there's this guy that's being hunted, he's hiding in this sort of renowned tunnel network, you know on the surface

you might be like there, it doesn't look like you've got the Israelis where you want them. From the messages, Senoir seems to believe that Israel has more to lose from the war than Hamas does.

He seems to think that the more Palestinians die, the more people pay attention.

He thinks it's in Hamas's interest and the interest of the Palestinian

calls to have these numbers of people dying because of the negative impact that has on Israel.

Welcome to the journal, our show about money, business, and power.

I'm Ryan Knutzen.

It's Monday, June 17th.

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