The Briefing Room: The Christian Burial Speech
Small Town Dicks
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4.7 • 10K Ratings
🗓️ 9 September 2022
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Once again, Detectives Dave and Dan take a deep dive into case law that governs how law enforcement operates in this country. Today, they discuss Brewer v. Williams, which is better known as "The Christian Burial Speech". It's a fascinating and disturbing tale about the limits of interrogation after a suspect invokes his right to counsel: even when, or especially when, the stakes are incredibly high.
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| 2:23.0 | Hey Small Town Superfan. I hope you're all having just the best day. Today on the briefing room we have our final lesson in case law. It has to do with what's known in law enforcement as the Christian burial speech. |
| 2:39.0 | This is a phenomenal episode. I actually think it's my favorite of the case law episodes where once again justice creates tangible change in policing. |
| 2:50.0 | But also in this one we get personal anecdotes and teachable moments from detectives Dan and Dave. So please enjoy the briefing room the Christian burial speech. |
| 3:10.0 | Welcome to the briefing room. Every day in police stations across the world law enforcement officers begin their shift with briefing. |
| 3:22.0 | Briefings are essential to communication and allow officers and command staff to discuss calls for service, crime trends, case law, wanted subjects, training opportunities and policy changes. |
| 3:34.0 | Briefing rooms provide a setting where the team can speak with each other candidly and openly. We wanted to create a similar setting for our listeners. |
| 3:42.0 | The briefing room series will include intimate and formal conversations about training issues, viral videos, guidance and training from detectives, as well as commentary on other topics impacting law enforcement and the true crime community. |
| 3:56.0 | So welcome to the briefing room. I feel like we should tell our listeners that this lesson on case law about the Christian burial speech is actually an extension of Miranda and Escobeito, which we covered in our last briefing room episode about case law. |
| 4:22.0 | Yeah, so this case I remember hearing about this in my one of my first college courses for criminal justice. So long time ago. |
| 4:32.0 | And the Christian burial speech. So this case was actually brewer versus Williams and brewers actually the warden of correctional institution. |
| 4:43.0 | But Williams is the suspect in this case and here's a little background on this case. So back in 1968, Christmas Eve in 1968. |
| 4:52.0 | A 10 year old girl named Pamela Powers goes with her family to the YMCA and Des Moines, Iowa. And they're going to go watch a wrestling tournament that her brother is competing in. |
| 5:03.0 | She tells her parents, I got to go to the restroom and she never comes back. So a search begins and there's a guy named Robert Williams, who is an escaped mental hospital patient. |
| 5:16.0 | And he was currently living at the YMCA. So you know, back in the day, you could actually stay at the YMCA, right? There's no need to feel down. There's young man, young man. |
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