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The brain’s 5 eras, the vaccine that protects against dementia, altruistic ants

Science Weekly

The Guardian

Science

4.21K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Science editor Ian Sample sits down with co-host Madeleine Finlay and science correspondent Hannah Devlin to hear about three eye-catching stories from the week, including a study showing that the brain has five ‘eras’, with adult mode not starting until our early 30s. Also on the agenda is new research showing the shingles vaccine not only protects against dementia but could actually slow its progress, and a paper exploring how ants sacrifice themselves when they become infected with pathogens to protect their healthy relatives. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/sciencepod

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:12.2

It can often feel like life happens in phases.

0:16.5

You're a kid figuring out the world.

0:19.1

Then a teen trying to find yourself.

0:22.4

Next, you're into a steady job, maybe a family.

0:25.5

And before you know it, retirement.

0:28.3

Well, according to a new study, life's eras map on to key turning points in our brains.

0:35.2

The study from the University of Cambridge has shed new light on the way that the brain ages,

0:39.9

with five distinct phases identified in case studies who've lived into their 90s.

0:47.3

As we head into the festive season and face difficult family dynamics,

0:52.6

take some inspiration from ants. Scientists have found that ants

0:56.8

are the ultimate altruists when it comes to looking after the health of their kin. And spending

1:03.5

time with others usually means catching a cough or a cold, but in another fascinating twist in what

1:10.1

viruses are doing to our bodies beyond the

1:12.7

initial infection, new research has found that a shingles vaccine not only helps prevent dementia,

1:19.4

but may be able to slow its progress too.

1:26.2

So today, I'm sitting down with both Madeleine Finley and Hannah Devlin to talk about the stories that caught our attention this week.

1:36.1

From The Guardian, I'm Ian Sampbell, and this is Science Weekly.

1:46.9

Madeleine, thanks for joining me.

1:51.8

We're going to start today's episode with a paper that's just been published,

1:56.2

looking at the relationship between the shingles vaccine and dementia.

2:00.8

And this is a continuation of work that came out earlier this year, right?

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