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The Red Nation Podcast

The Book of Genocide: The Bible and settler colonialism w/ Justin Podur

The Red Nation Podcast

The Red Nation

History, Society & Culture

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

 

TRN Podcast host Nick Estes in conversation with Justin Podur (@justinpodur) from The Anti Empire Project on the role of the Bible and the Book of Joshua in particular in enabling the genocide in Gaza.

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Personal website: https://podur.org/
Substack: https://justinpodur.substack.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/justinpodur

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0:00.0

I'm a tak yapi.

0:31.2

This is Nick Estes here on the Red Nation podcast.

0:35.6

We are live streaming today with Justin Poder. We're also

0:39.0

cross live streaming on East's The Podcast. I made a really off-color joke before we got on

0:46.9

this call about that. I won't repeat it here, but nonetheless, welcome. That's why Justin is

0:52.8

cracking up right now. It was off mic.

0:55.2

It wasn't a hot mic.

0:58.4

The mics weren't hot.

1:01.1

Welcome to the podcast, Justin.

1:03.4

Maybe you can start by introducing yourself where you're calling from and talk about your own project, the anti-empirate project.

1:12.1

Okay, thank you. It is such a pleasure to be here. I'm a long-time fan of Red Nation.

1:18.7

My name's Justin. I'm in Toronto, which is on the ancestral lands of the Anishnave and stolen like every other square inch of this continent by settler colonists from the Anglo-Americans.

1:42.3

So what I've been doing for the past couple of years, and it's been a couple of years,

1:52.3

is it's now weekly.

1:54.4

It was probably two or three times a week.

1:56.7

I've been doing a report on the military situation of the war on Gaza, the genocide,

2:04.2

and the regional wars that have started and paused and continued.

2:10.7

So the entire regional war, I've been covering on my channel, the Antiempirate project which is just if you if you're

2:19.9

searching on YouTube it's just YouTube slash my name Justin Pador and I'm on Twitter and wherever

2:24.9

else as well so that's relevant to what we're talking about today that's what that's what

2:33.5

that's what I've been doing and then in terms of today and why why I think we're talking about today, that's what, that's what, that's what I've been doing. And then in

2:35.7

terms of today and why, why I think we're talking today is because over these two years,

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