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The Book Club: Lauren Oyler

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4.3826 Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2024

⏱️ 41 minutes

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This week's Book Club podcast sees me speaking to the critic and novelist Lauren Oyler about her first collection of essays, No Judgment: On Being Critical. Lauren and I talked about the freedoms and affordances of the essay form; about how making and criticising art has been changed – and hasn't – by the advent of the digital age; why it's weird we all still treat the internet as if it's a new thing; and about why David Foster Wallace can still be a role-model even after his cancellation.

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Hello and welcome to The Spectator's Book Club podcast. I'm Sam Leith, the literary editor to the

0:33.0

Spectator, and I'm very pleased to be joined this week by Lauren Euler, who is a critic and writer and novelist

0:41.2

and has been described on the cover of her new book as the critic of her generation, which is not reader, perhaps our generation.

0:49.3

Her new book is called No Judgment on Being Critical.

0:52.7

Lauren, welcome.

0:53.7

Thank you so much for having me.

0:55.0

Now, to try and get a sense of you for those of our listeners who aren't so kind of familiar

1:01.5

with your work because you're a very sort of online kind of person, can you say sort of

1:06.6

what it is you see yourself doing in these essays?

1:09.0

Because they seem to range between straight

1:11.3

literary criticism, cultural criticism, memoir, and the kind of more roaming form of the essay.

1:17.6

Sure. Well, I don't think anybody knows what an essay is, right? It's a very capacious category.

1:23.2

And when I was starting to write the essays of the book, I also struggled to understand what it was I was doing.

1:30.3

So my first book was a novel.

1:31.9

And as a literary critic, I felt and still feel that I have a very strong sense of not only what a novel is, but what a novel should be.

1:41.4

Whereas my sense of what an essay, I think much more about what an essay can be rather than what it should be. Whereas my sense of what an essay, I think much more about what an essay can be

1:46.1

rather than what it should be, which is a really nice place to theoretically write from. But in

1:51.9

practice, it's sort of overwhelming. But now I can't remember what exactly your question was.

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