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The Book Club: Andrea Wulf

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4.4 β€’ 785 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 10 August 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In this week's Book Club podcast, I'm joined by Andrea Wulf to talk about the birth of Romanticism at the end of the 18th century. Her new book Magnificent Rebels tells the story of the "Jena set" – a staggering assemblage of the superstars of German literature and philosophy who gathered in a small town and collectively came up with a whole new way of looking at the world. Goethe, Schiller, Fichte, Schelling, Novalis, the Schlegel brothers, the von Humboldt brothers – and their brilliant and daring wives and lovers... their intellectual fireworks were matched by a tangle of literary feuds and hair-raising sexual complications. Here's a piece of the jigsaw of intellectual history that most British people will only vaguely know of if at all – and it's fascinating.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to The Spectator's Book Club podcast. I'm Sam Leith, the literary editor for The Spectator, and this week my guest is Andrea Wolfe, whose new book is magnificent rebels, the first romantics and the invention of the self. But if you're thinking when you hear

0:22.2

the word romantic, Coleridge, Keats, Wordsworth, Shelley, it's not those romantics. These are the

0:30.4

OG romantics, the German romantics. And they all gathered in a little town in Germany

0:37.2

and Andrea tells their story in this book.

0:40.2

Andrea, welcome.

0:42.0

Is romanticism a German invention?

0:45.5

Well, you're starting off with the hardest question straight away.

0:50.7

I'm sorry.

0:51.9

It's not a German invention, but I would say that they were really, so my guys, so which

0:58.4

I called the Jena set, because they came together at the same time, at the same place, at the

1:02.7

end of the 18th century, are really the first to use the term romantic in its new literary

1:08.9

and philosophical meaning.

1:10.2

So before then, the word romantic was used,

1:13.5

but it came from the French word novel, Romance. So it only meant like a novel. So they're the

1:21.7

first to use it as we understand it today. So they are the ones who actually launch romanticism onto an international

1:30.7

stage. So not just by giving it its name and its purpose, but also by providing its

1:36.2

intellectual framework. So in that sense, you could probably say they invented maybe. What they do

1:42.8

do is they influence a great number of people

1:46.0

across the world. So from this tiny little town in Germany, there's this amazing ripple effect

1:52.1

across the world. And people like Coleridge, for example, or the American Transcendentists,

1:57.7

are deeply, deeply influenced by them. And maybe we can talk about that after I introduced them a little bit.

2:04.2

But so they are incredibly important for the English Romantics, for example.

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