The Bomb Threats at HBCUs
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 7 February 2022
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Last week was scary for historically black colleges and universities, 17 of which received bomb threats that caused disruptions, building closures and class cancellations. The FBI is investigating, but we don't know a lot about what happened. To go over what we do know, Benjamin Wittes sat down with Andy McCabe, former deputy director of the FBI who ran his share of counter-terrorism investigations, and Yasmin Cader, a deputy legal director at the ACLU and the director of the Trone Center for Justice and Equality. They talked about what we know about the investigation, how these investigations take place, and the tensions they involve between the FBI and communities of color. They also talked about the role of HBCUs and why people may be targeting them, whether the FBI is well positioned to investigate hate crimes, and what it needs to do to better position itself for this mission. They even talked about Jan. 6 and what the FBI's preparedness for that event says about its preparedness now.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:33.9 | We can't have these conversations or this analysis in a vacuum. |
| 0:38.5 | We're not also reckoning with a lot of the problematic ways Law Enforcement has engaged |
| 0:46.3 | with communities of color and particularly with the black community. |
| 0:49.7 | I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast February 7th, 2022. |
| 0:57.2 | It was a scary week for historically black colleges and universities. |
| 1:02.9 | 17 of which receive bomb threats that cause disruptions, building closures and class |
| 1:10.1 | cancellations. |
| 1:12.5 | The FBI is investigating. |
| 1:14.7 | We don't know a heck of a lot about what happened but we thought we would go over |
| 1:19.7 | what we do know. |
| 1:21.7 | Joining me in the virtual jungle studio this week were Andy McCabe, former deputy director |
| 1:28.4 | of the FBI who ran his share of counterterrorism investigations and Yasmin Cater, a deputy legal |
| 1:37.2 | director at the ACLU and the director of the Tron Center for Justice and Equality. |
| 1:44.3 | We talked about what we know about the investigation, how these investigations take place and the |
| 1:51.1 | tensions they involve between the FBI and communities of color. |
| 1:57.1 | We talked about the role of HBCUs and why people may be targeting them. |
| 2:03.1 | We talked about whether the FBI is well positioned to investigate hate crimes and what it needs |
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