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The Lawfare Podcast

Congress Moves on China

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🗓️ 8 February 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

The House of Representatives last week passed the COMPETES Act, its counterpart to a Senate bill last year on competitiveness with China. What's in the bill? What would it do? How similar is it to the Senate bill? And how close are we to a major piece of China legislation?

Benjamin Wittes sat down on Lawfare Live with Susan Thornton, a retired U.S. diplomat who is currently a visiting lecturer in law at Yale Law School and a senior fellow at the Paul Tsai China Center, and Jordan Schneider, the host of the ChinaTalk podcast and newsletter. They talked about the legislation, the prospects for reconciling it for the Senate bill, and whether this is a real start or just window dressing.


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no bull and the aftermath.

0:32.6

You know, I don't think the economic provisions, you know, are investing in ourselves and other

0:38.9

things like that are going to, I mean, they're not going to have any reaction really to that.

0:43.0

It's more the sort of retweetest swipes that you just mentioned and some of the policies

0:47.2

regarding their internal issues that would be most, and certainly the, you know, Taiwan

0:53.1

language and the language about rallying with our allies to contain China.

0:58.1

That kind of thing is going to be the most upsetting and you'll see a lot about it in

1:01.8

the Chinese press wouldn't if this ever gets passed.

1:05.8

I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast February 8th, 2022.

1:14.7

Don't look now, but the House of Representatives last week passed the Compete Act.

1:21.2

This counterpart to a Senate bill last year on competitiveness with China.

1:28.3

What's in the bill?

1:29.6

What would it do?

1:30.6

How similar is it to the Senate bill and how closer we to a major piece of China legislation?

1:38.4

Joining me last week in front of a live audience at LawFair Live was Susan Thornton, a retired

1:45.9

U.S. diplomat who is currently a senior fellow and visiting lecturer in law at the Yale

1:52.8

Law School and the Paul Tsai China Center.

1:57.2

With her was Jordan Schneider, the host of the China Talk podcast and newsletter which runs

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