This is The Guardian.

Hi, it's Helen here.

Today in Focus is taking a little Christmas break so that we can recharge our batteries

ready for 2026.

While we're off, we're bringing you the latest series of Guardian Investigates.

It's presented by reporters Shirin Kala and Lucy Osborne,

and it tells the story of how two influencers made millions radicalising pregnant women around

the world. Today, part three.

Hi, I'm Shirin Kala and I'm Lucy Osborne. You're listening listening to The Birth Keepers, a new six-part series from The Guardian Investigates.

Just before we start, this series contains references to baby loss and maternal harm. It's 2013.

Lauren is an actor, and Chris is a session musician in a band.

For some reason, today, he's dressed as a pirate.

I was cast in his best friend's music video. We met at a video

shoot, very typical L.A. thing. And I look over and he walks in and I thought, oh my gosh,

that sexy pirate right there is my guy. And I was dressed as a cat. They had dressed me as like

kind of a sexy kitty. And so he said later that he saw me and he was like, that sexy kitty is mine.

So we were both kind of thinking the same thing.

Something with her and I just, I don't know, it just worked.

It clicked.

And it went from a little coffee date to spending every single day together to starting businesses together.

And 12 years later, here we are.

Not long after they met, they realized they were both tired of L.A. that they wanted something very

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