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Welcome to the Big Weekend Pod.

Necessarily more sober than most as I'm conducting my interviews with my guests

about the forthcoming memorial service for Charlie Kirk on Sunday. I have a great fear it could

go off the rails like the Wellstone Memorial Service did in 2002. I'm not convinced in Will. I think the more we talk about it,

the less likely it is that it will occur. I hope everyone remembers that the disruptors who are

likely to be there have no goal other in mind than to ruin the moment in the proceedings

for Charlie's wife, children, family, and friends, and to take away from the fact that

he was martyred for political speech and or evangelical speech. And I'd also remind them that

the first Christian martyr is Stephen. I talk about this on the Saturday.

And Stephen's life ended praying for those who were killing it.

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