Well, if we were to go back in time about, let's say, maybe 10 years at the advent of what was the pushback against what would be known as the woke movement.

Not many people knew what that even was. Like, what is it that's actually going on here?

And if you recall, if you went back

to 2015, there's a lot of people saying, oh, well, it's just people they're following. It's the

natural progression of where things happen in regards to this kind of liberal education and so

forth. And no, it wasn't. It wasn't. And so when I started to speak up in 2016,

and then when we debuted Sovereign Nations in 2017, a lot of people just called us crazy.

They said, because one of the problems was that when I came out with the first few conferences

regarding issues like critical race theory, intersectionality, and also the big picture of what

was really going on, about 90% of it sounded absolutely insane to people that were living back

in 2016 and 2017. I mean, the world was stable, right?

Things were okay.

You could plan on your future.

You kind of knew what was going to be happening from year to year to year.

But there was this other stuff that was going on, mainly in education.

It was mainly happening in the schools and the universities.

Some pretty crazy stuff.

But, you know,

we could see a little bit of it starting to leak into other places. The problem is, is that

I knew where this was going back between 2009 to 2012, not because I was smarter than anybody

else, but because I was actually in the rooms where this was being discussed.

Because some of the people that were going to be eventually doing this were people that were my clients.

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