Hey everyone, this is Motherkind. I'm your host Zoe Blaski and this is the show that is going to give

you all the tools, ideas and support you need. As together, we ride the wild roller coaster.

That is modern motherhood. This episode, we are going to completely reframe post-natal depression and anxiety.

I was never diagnosed, but I definitely felt very low and anxious in those early days and actually

the first few years. And today's guest, psychologist Yara Heary, is going to give us a new frame

of reference for how we think about that experience

and whatever you went through or perhaps are still going through, how to see your experiences

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Yara, I'm so excited to chat to you and connect.

And I wanted to ask you to start with about something that you wrote and it says

postpartum depression or anxiety is a way of describing a set of symptoms.

The important question to ask Nest is why do these symptoms exist?

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