Go on, you know you like to watch.

Well, debates anyway.

So this is highly entertaining, I think.

It's vegan vegetarian versus meat-based diets, which is healthier.

With myself and Dr Michael Greger, vegan on G.B. News.

Enjoy.

This section is a two-chart challenge.

This is where I'm going to get two experts,

and they're going to answer the big issues of our time, not from an emotional point of view,

but purely from a factual point of view. And the question today is what diet is actually healthier?

Is it a vegetarian or a meat-based diet?

And so I am delighted to say that I'm joined now by Iva Cummings,

a metabolic researcher and co-author of Eat, Rich, Live Long,

and Dr Michael Greger, physician and founder of the non-profit NutritionFacts.org.

Gentlemen, good to see you, and thank you for joining me on the two-chart challenge.

We believe in free speech and good, healthy, rigorous debates here on GB News.

Iva, I'm going to start with you.

Tell me, why is a meat-based diet healthier for the human body?

Right, thanks a lot, Bev.

Well, I'll just say something first.

My views reflect the views of my enormous network of professors, doctors and metabolic and nutrition science. So it's not just me. So the reality

is that a meat-based diet is nutrient dense. And the proteins in meats and animal foods are way more

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