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The Next Level

The Big Debate: JVL Likes MTG!?!? (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.92.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 September 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Sarah and JVL go 10 rounds on the the debate, and fact checking, and the proper role of moderators and news organizations in holding candidates accountable for presenting misinformation.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone. This is J. V. L. here is my best friend Sarah Longwell, publisher of the Bulwark.

0:11.6

Sarah, it's Friday. We've never taped this late before.

0:15.0

I'm sorry. No, it's not your fault. This is everything is just off today. Like you had work stuff. I had doctor had doctors appointments I think I have food

0:23.9

poisoning last night I've been under the weather I didn't even write a newsletter

0:27.1

today I wrote like 3,000 words of a newsletter I knew something yeah. There was a hole in your day where you just you know you just sat right in front of your email like a rat for a pellet and they ever came.

0:42.4

Anyway can I tell you what I did today? Yeah. and it never came.

0:42.6

Anyway, can I tell you what I did today?

0:44.4

Yeah, tell me.

0:45.6

The reason that I had to push it back

0:47.2

was us taping the focus group pod with one Dana Bash, which is cool because she moderated the debate with Joe Biden and

0:59.5

Donald Trump that caused Joe Biden to drop out. And obviously there's a lot of discussion now about the ABC

1:08.0

moderation, and I was excited for her take on it.

1:12.3

And if you two are excited for her take,

1:15.0

you could listen to the podcast tomorrow.

1:16.0

Was she candid with you?

1:18.0

She was.

1:19.0

Wow, that surprises me.

1:20.0

Yeah.

1:21.0

That surprises me a lot.

1:22.0

Yeah, she had a thought, she had some thoughts and feelings.

1:25.0

I will say, she asked me what I thought about it, and so I'm interested in what you thought

1:29.5

about it, because I would say, I have had a little bit of an evolution on this where yeah because the night of when

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