My investment slash make money build wealth thesis is this, right? A business is the number one thing

that can generate the most amount of active or passive income. The real principle to always make

sure you always make money is how do we go about creating value for more people? How do I serve

people, solve problems and serve them in such a way that money is just the byproduct?

What's going on, wealth builders today? I've got a guy who has got out of the rat race

at 28 years old and retired and then lost it all, only to have to go build it back up and

retire again at 39. And we're going to go over the lessons learned and how you can start

making your money work for you so you can get out of the rat race yourself.

I've got Chris Miles. What's up, man?

What's up, Ryan? It's good to be here, man. It's good to see you again.

Yeah. So you just got done running a marathon while you were here.

I did. I figured, why not? You So I might as well be the guy, right?

That's right.

So let's talk about this, man.

You've done a lot of real estate.

You've done insurance.

You've done a lot of different things.

And so I want to dive deep into what your journey's been because you were able to retire at 28 from passive income.

And then I always kind of hate on passive income.

So I think it's going to be a fun conversation

because to me, passive income is just like kind of a myth in some ways

because nothing is truly passive.

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