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Welcome to today's podcast, sponsored by Hillsdale College, all things Hillsdale at Hillsdale.

I encourage you to take advantage of the many free online courses there. And of course, I'll listen to the Hillsdale Dialogues, all of them at Hugh for Hillsdale.com, or just Google Apple, iTunes, and Hillsdale. Morning, Glory, and even Grace, America. I'm Hugh, and on a great day. It appears though we're going to have peace in Gaza by Tuesday of next week.

More on that. I begin the show, though, with Congressman Rokana, Democrat from California.

One of the Democrats I love to talk to because he's smart and he engages.

Hello, Congressman. Thank you for joining me. I appreciate your being here.

Hugh, thank you for having me back on. Always enjoy it.

All right.

Now, I want to get to the shutdown, but before I do, two quick questions, but they're hard

questions.

Don't want to ambush you, but they're hard question.

Virginia Attorney General Democrat nominee Jay Jones has issued text, or texts

have been revealed in which she suggested the Republican speaker should

have two bullets to the head, maybe even indicated that the children should be killed.

Should that man, Jay Jones, drop out of the race?

Well, that's horrific.

There's no excuse for it. I fully condemn it. And, yeah, I mean, I haven't followed all the details, but if he was actually saying that, I certainly wouldn't support him.

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