On the Bechdelcast, the questions asked if movies have women in them.

Are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, or do they have individualism?

The patriarchy's effing vast, start changing it with the Bechdel cast.

Hello and welcome to the Bechdel cast.

My name is Caitlin Durante.

And my name's Jamie Loftus.

And we talk about the representation of women in movies. On our podcast that you're listening to.

That's it. This is it. You clicked. You tapped. Here you are. And here we are. Once again,

the Bechtel cast takes a look at how female characters are portrayed in famous movies, and we

use the Bechtel test as a jumping off point for that discussion.

What on earth is that?

Well, I'll tell you, it's a test invented by queer cartoonist Alison Bechtel.

It's a media test that requires that two female identifying characters, they have to have names,

and they have to talk to each other for two lines of dialogue about something that is not a man

or related to a man. Wow. Wow. Sounds like it should be easy, but a lot of movies. The Lord of the

Rings doesn't pass. Not one of the 10 hours of that famous movie franchise.

So that's why we're here. Yes. And we did this on the Debs episode as well. But I wanted to

dive a little bit deeper into the origins of the Bechdel test than we normally do because I think

it's especially relevant for this movie that we're discussing.

So, Jamie, as you said, Alison Bechdel Queer icon inadvertently created the Bechdel test in her book, Dikes to Watch Out for, which was published in 1985.

I think some people think that she kind of like deliberately set out to create this test.

It's kind of, yeah, it's more that it was. It's usually presented as like,

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