We've been married almost 14 years. We are champions of marriage. Oh that the whole world would be in love and be married. That's my quest

And we love being parents. We have a We love being parents.

We have a almost 12 year old and an 8 year old cadence in haven

and

and the Lord really early on, you know, as how many people are mothers in the house?

Yeah. So you know the feeling of that moment where you're like, oh God, I desperately need you to teach me how to do this, right?

You like go to school for so many things, but you never go to school to be a parent or to be a husband or be a wife,

but you go to school for mathematics and history, isn't it crazy?

Truly, right?

Mothers in the house? can I get an amen?

Right? You're like, you're in it and you're like,

why didn't I go to school for this?

And the Lord really early on, was in one of those desperation moments of crying out to God for wisdom.

In revelation and he said, Melissa, they will eventually outgrow their need for you, but they will

never outgrow their need for me. And if you teach them from very tiny, tiny,

that the greater need is for the Holy Spirit,

then they will need me their whole life and that will be the greatest thing you

give them is their need for me.

Isn't that awesome? So I'm on this quest, right, of like, how do I do that? Can it, like, is there a book about that? No, there is not. I've looked. No book on that. So we would just get in these moments where we're like in a car. We've kept them out way too late. It's at the end of a like a conference. They're totally wiped out in the car flipping out, you know, those moments and they're screen crying and I'm

saying they're waiting for Jonathan, he's talking, talking, talking,

talking, praying, praying, praying, and the kids are screaming, screaming,

screaming, louder, louder, louder.

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