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The Beauty in the End

the goop podcast

Gwyneth Paltrow

Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Education

4.37.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2019

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

BJ Miller, MD, is the kind of person who can make you feel good about death—and, in turn, life. He’s also the kind of person who can coauthor a book called A Beginner’s Guide to the End that makes you smile. Today, Elise Loehnen talks to Miller, a palliative-care and hospice physician, about some of her favorite topics to discuss: How do we plan for the one inevitability in life? How do we help our loved ones find comfort and beauty at the end of their lives? How do we make room for grief? How do we make meaning of it all? And how do we feel the wonder, the joy, along the way? “The kindest service a person can do the world,” Miller says, “is to find happiness.” He helps point us in that direction. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Don't hold anything too tightly. Just wish for it, want it, let it come from the

0:10.6

intention of real truth for you, and then let it go. For me our soul is like it's

0:16.8

unbound, it's limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves. When people

0:23.2

stop believing that somebody's got your back or Superman's coming we turn to

0:28.9

ourselves and that's where you become empowered. Courageous participation attracts

0:35.3

positive things. I'm Gwyneth Paltrow. This is the Goop podcast, bringing together

0:42.0

thought leaders, culture changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists,

0:47.6

doctors, healers and seekers, here to start conversations because simply asking

0:53.1

questions and listening has the power to change the way we see the world. Today is

0:57.8

no exception. I'll let Elise fill you in on her extraordinary guest and I'll come

1:02.4

back after their conversation to answer a question from one of you. If you have a

1:06.2

question you'd like me to get into in our next round of Ask Me Anything send it

1:10.0

to us at Goop on Instagram or Facebook. All right, over to Elise.

1:15.6

Dr. B.J. Miller is a hospice and palliative care specialist who treats people with

1:20.1

terminal or life altering illnesses. Stay with me because he's extraordinary and his

1:24.8

work is incredibly inspirational. B.J. is also the author with Shashana Berger

1:29.8

of a beginner's guide to the end. I think everyone should own a copy of this book.

1:34.8

B.J.'s perspective on death and dying is profound and it ultimately has the potential

1:39.4

to transform the way we live. As he puts it, we all die. You're not going to fail at it.

1:45.2

So shouldn't we at least know how to plan for it? Today we start with talking about what

1:49.6

that means in practical terms and then we get deeper. How can we have a beautiful death?

1:54.4

What makes a meaningful life? How do we grieve? And if we don't know what happens when we die,

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