Welcome to part two of our interview with Cindy Sauer about her book and her personal experiences,

The Exorcism of Cindy Sauer.

Tell me what you were thinking.

You know, is there, by having some sort of a mental breakdown?

Is there something that I need to get help for?

But there's so many other pieces of evidence there that point to know this is well beyond,

well, very different than what that would be.

But it's not like you could just go to your doctor and say, hey, I'm having these things happen

because the next thing you know, child protective services is at your door.

And that's not something that you just want to go and share if you know that this

is not you having a breakdown. This is something external that's almost become internal to you.

And it's this force that's going at you. What was going through your mind at that moment of trying

to get help? Did you ever did it run through your mind to try and talk to like a mental health

professional? Was that even something that you thought, what may be just in case? Or what was going

through your mind of seeking any sort of help for this situation? Well, I had experience with, you know, psychologists before. I, you know, suffered

abuse, so it was a normal thing for me to, you know, get counseling. And, you know, I had taken

medication for depression and things before. So, you know, I really knew what these things felt

like. Yeah. But even so, there were, you know, I really knew what these things felt like.

But even so, there were, of course, many moments when I thought, I'm just going crazy.

I'm just, I'm just, I'm having a, I would, I would, I'm having a breakdown.

I'm just going to, you know, and resign myself to the fact that I'm just going to be institutionalized or something is very wrong. But the things that people around me

were experiencing at the same time, you can't ignore. You know, when it when it is external and

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