The Battery Dope
The Disappearing Spoon: a science history podcast with Sam Kean
Sam Kean
4.0 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 19 May 2026
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Summary
In the 1950s, scientists hated politics. Then one Allen Astin got fired. After that, scientists knew they had to play politics—or face professional annihilation.
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| 0:00.0 | The flowers appeared one spring morning in 1953. |
| 0:05.1 | A guard at the National Bureau of Standards in Washington, D.C., found them affixed to an iron gate. |
| 0:11.5 | Two dozen carnations in a white bow. |
| 0:14.5 | Was it somebody's birthday? |
| 0:16.3 | A thoughtful spouse remembering an anniversary? |
| 0:19.6 | No. |
| 0:20.6 | A card attached to the carnations announced a death of |
| 0:23.4 | sorts. It read, in memory of Dr. Allen v. Aston and the traditions of the National Bureau of Standards. |
| 0:32.0 | To be clear, Alan Aston was alive. Instead, the card was mourning the loss of Alan's job. He had been fired. |
| 0:40.0 | And more than that, it mourned the sudden death of scientific independence at the Bureau, |
| 0:44.8 | especially independence from political meddling. This independence had died in a duel between |
| 0:51.0 | Aston and a flashy con man named Jess Richie. |
| 0:55.4 | At the time, Aston was a bureaucrat, a functionary. |
| 0:58.7 | Probably not even 1% of American scientists could have named him. |
| 1:02.7 | But that was about to change. |
| 1:04.9 | Aston's firing would soon have every scientist in the nation fuming, |
| 1:08.9 | terrified that the very future of American science was in peril. |
| 1:19.1 | This is The Disappearing Spoon by Sam Keen, a topsy, turvy, sciencey history podcast, where |
| 1:26.6 | footnotes become the real story. |
| 1:36.5 | Jess Richie was born in Arkansas in 1909. |
| 1:39.7 | He dropped out of school at age 12, but he later bragged about that, about how he, like Thomas Edison, |
| 1:46.4 | had just a grade school education. |
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