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Today we're talking with Bryce Sable.

He created five primetime TV series, ran the Emmys, and was a CNN correspondent before his Hollywood career.

CNN correspondent to switch to writing fiction.

That's not a career change.

That's a lateral move.

In 1996, Bryce made an NBC show called Dark Skies. It was about a secret government cover-up of UFOs.

I remember the show.

And it's amazing how many things it got right 30 years ago.

And while he was making it, the cover-up came to him.

Men who said they were Navy intelligence showed up at his house and his office.

They wanted to feed him real secrets to write into the show.

Yeah, when the government shows up at my door, all they want is back taxes.

Yeah, join the club.

Today we're covering his career, his books, and his new podcast,

which asks whether the government has been hiding the truth about UFOs inside our movies

for 70 years. There's one more thing those men asked him to do. Meet a stranger at a cemetery at midnight. Wild story. After our talk, I'll come back for a quick analysis of our conversation. Let's go down to the basement.

Hey, you can watch the Wi-Files on Spotify, new video episodes every Monday and Friday,

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