The Basement: Joshua Cutchin | Fairies, Bigfoot, and the Connection Nobody Saw Coming

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Society & Culture, Documentary, Science Fiction, Science, Life Sciences, Fiction

4.8 • 9.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2026

⏱️ 161 minutes

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Get 25% off Cowboy Colostrum with code WHYFILES at https://cowboycolostrum.com/WHYFILES. Josh Cutchin is a researcher, author, and musician whose work occupies a rare space between rigorous scholarship and genuine open-mindedness. Josh Cutchin is a researcher, author, and musician whose work occupies a rare space between rigorous scholarship and genuine open-mindedness. Over eight books he has built a unified argument that Bigfoot, fairies, UFOs, near death experiences, and ghosts are not separate phenomena but facets of the same ancient, shape-shifting presence. His 2022 masterwork Ecology of Souls is considered by peers to be among the most important books in ufology in decades, and was included in Rice University's curriculum for first year PhD students in religion. His footnotes are legendary. His thinking is genuinely original. A trained tuba player who studied under Canadian Brass legend Fred Mills, Josh brings the same obsessive attention to detail to paranormal research that he once applied to music. And his central argument — that everything weird points back to the same door — is impossible to dismiss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	My darling, the carriage awaits. The Duchess herself will be there.
0:07.0	But what if he's already in the ballroom? Waiting?
0:10.2	Sorry, are we getting off here?
0:12.5	Huh? Oh, no. Next stop.
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0:38.5	Today I'm talking with Joshua Cutchin, a researcher who spent the last decade building the case that every paranormal phenomenon we've ever recorded is a different facet of the same thing. UFOs, fairies, bigfoot, ghosts, near-death experiences.
0:47.1	His book, Ecology of Souls, argues that all of it connects to death, or whatever's on the other side of it.
0:54.7	This theory is being taken seriously by serious people.
0:58.6	Jeffrey Criple at Rice University teaches it to his PhD students.
1:02.7	Yeah, delicious people are not going to like this theory.
1:06.2	Today we're covering how he built that theory,
1:08.6	what the fairy literature gets right that UFO
1:11.1	keeps ignoring, and his latest book, Fourth Wall Phantoms, which is about fictional
1:15.9	characters that cross into real life.
1:18.9	Oh, that one's true.
1:20.3	One day on Hollywood Boulevard, I saw Spider-Man, Thor, and two sponge-bops.
1:25.7	We also talked about how Chat-Chiippy T is addicted to goblins.
1:30.4	This is a true story. You're going to want to hear it.
1:32.9	After the episode, I'll do a quick breakdown of what we covered and what I can prove.
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