Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest,

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process,

on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

tuning up your 8-mile-per- mile per gallon passenger van to start touring again or else a scrappy upstart, renting a 50 mile per gallon vehicle share smart car, this is your show. Because ultimately, it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey, everybody, it's the third Friday of November 22, and I thank you for joining us.

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