How should we think about what has come to be called gender ideology? How does

gender ideology actually look a lot like a religion? What is the view of truth that

underlies the gender ideology discussion?

Let's answer these questions in a lot more today with our guest Joel Berry, one of the founders

and authors of the Babylon B website in their new book called the Babylon B guide to gender.

I'm your host Scott Ray and this is Think Biblically from tablet school of theology

at Biola University.

Joel thanks so much for being with us. I loved your book, love the

the Babylon B site. It's a lot of fun.

Thank you. Thanks for having me, Scott. It's an honor to be here, and it's nice to talk to someone

who appreciates the work, too.

Well, some of our listeners might not be familiar

with the Babylon Beast.

So just tell us a little bit about what it is and why should

people pay attention to it?

Yeah, well, the Babylon B was started back in 2016 by a guy named Adam Ford and he was an atheist all his life.

He kind of had this miraculous conversion to Christianity and back in 2016 he had this idea to do something similar to what the onion does

so if you're familiar with the onion it's a it's a fake news site like the Babylon B. They kind of do dry AP style news that's very funny

And they had they had put out a headline

This was after the abergrafeld decision that decided gay marriage in the Supreme Court. The onion had put out a headline, something to the effect of four Supreme Court justices

suddenly realized that they will soon

be the villains in an upcoming Oscar-winning movie.

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