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The Atheist Experience

The Atheist Experience 30.19 with Justin and Scott Dickie

The Atheist Experience

The Atheist Community of Austin

Business, Non-profit, Religion & Spirituality

4.62.6K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2026

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode of the Atheist Experience, Justin and Scott Dickie celebrate Mother’s Day by examining the "bad design" of childbirth and the failed promises of the Bible! They dismantle the myth of messianic prophecies, the forgery of the Shroud of Turin, and the logical gymnastics required to ground reality in a transcendental deity.
Isaac in AL argues eyewitnesses and the Shroud of Turin prove Jesus. Justin notes the "500 witnesses" are unnamed, and the shroud is a confessed forgery. They analyze Hebrew text to see if Jesus failed the messianic job description. Will he find a counter?
Joel in AZ asks if a perfect God could create imperfection. Scott challenges the vague term "perfection," while Justin notes that if God is good, unnecessary suffering is a contradiction. Does this resolution simply delete the Christian message?
Toby in Italy asks how God grounds logic. Scott explains logic is a descriptive tool for reality, not a transcendental entity needing an anchor. They critique Platonism. If logic is just a language, what happens to the transcendental argument?
Thank you for joining us this week! We will see you next time!


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For a one year period from July, 2023 to June 2024, the United States Conference of Catholic

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Bishops reported 902 allegations by 855 victims and survivors of child sexual abuse by clergy,

0:15.1

making the daily victim average 2.7 self-reported children In the Catholic Church today, in modern times, nearly three

0:24.9

children are assaulted per day by a member of the Catholic clergy. Protestants, however, are no better.

0:30.8

Insurance companies that track SA cases list the church as the most likely place for a child

0:36.4

under 18 to get assaulted. And based on population statistics, the church is the most likely place for a child under 18 to get assaulted.

0:38.2

And based on population statistics, the church is three times more likely to be an assault location

0:43.1

than the next most likely location.

0:46.0

This data is all very confusing because Christians are said to have the Holy Spirit living in them,

0:51.5

which turns them into a new creature.

0:53.3

2 Corinthians 517, says if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature?

0:58.7

I say all that to say this, that if Christ is not able to conform his believers to be like

1:03.6

him after the Bible said that he would, then we have no reason to believe any claims made

1:08.4

by the Bible or any claims made by Jesus.

1:11.9

In Mark 1618,

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Jesus said that believers will place hands on the sick and they will be healed, yet hospitals are full of sick people. Jesus also said in Matthew 1819 that if two of you agree on earth about

1:22.2

anything that they ask, it shall be done for them, yet prayers by Christians have been studied and

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praying has no better

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outcome than flipping a coin. Is there any reason why non-believers should take Jesus or the God of the

1:34.4

Bible seriously given the myriad of failures and lies? If you have a reason, give us a call. The lines are open

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and the show starts now.

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Welcome in, everybody.

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