The Ashes on the Lawn

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🗓️ 10 June 2021

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Summary

In the face of death, grief, and indifference, what can people do to make a change? In trying to understand a year of tragedy and conflict, correspondent Tracie Hunte looks back 30 years to explore the U.S. AIDS epidemic and how protesters balanced rage and anguish with pointed and often painstaking political action. This week on The Experiment, we hear from AIDS activists who put their bodies on the line and from the man they burned in effigy, Anthony Fauci. This story originally ran on Radiolab. Be part of The Experiment. Use the hashtag #TheExperimentPodcast, or write to us at [email protected]. This episode was reported by Tracie Hunte and produced by Annie McEwen and Tobin Low. Fact-checking by Diane Kelly.

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0:00.0	I'm Julia Lungoria. This is the experiment.
0:05.0	In this week, we are revisiting a story reported a while back by Correspondent Tracy Hunt.
0:12.0	Okay, so if you can remember, why did you originally do this story?
0:17.0	Around April 2020. We were in the middle of a pandemic and I was like,
0:23.0	Hey, remember the last time we were in the middle of a pandemic, you know?
0:27.0	It's a story she reported for the show Radio Lab last summer when the pandemic was raging all over the country.
0:35.0	You know, there was all this like obviously grief and mourning for actual deaths, but also just like how much our way of life was changing.
0:46.0	And in the midst of all that, people all over the country started taking to the streets.
0:51.0	You know, the protests broke out that summer in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, in a mod obry in Priyata Taylor.
0:58.0	They were literally protests right outside my window.
1:01.0	And in the midst of all that tragedy and conflict, people all over the country were demanding change, saying this isn't working in every way they could through protests, through op-eds, through expressions of grief.
1:18.0	And Tracy had a question, what actually works to make a change?
1:27.0	How do you actually get people in power to pay attention and make change?
1:34.0	In this story, Tracy looks back to the AIDS epidemic, another time when people in our country demanded action in every way they could think of.
1:44.0	Here's that story reported by Tracy Hunt and hosted by Radio Lab's Lulu Miller.
1:51.0	Before we start, just letting you know there is some explicit language in this story.
1:56.0	Wait, you're listening to Radio Lab from WNYC.
2:08.0	Hello, this is Radio Lab, I'm Lulu Miller and today we have a story from reporter Tracy Hunt.
2:20.0	Where does this story start?
2:23.0	So I'm going to start you off in New York City.
2:27.0	June 25th, 1989.
2:30.0	It was the gay pride parade, but it was also the very first time that David Robinson
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