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We talk to foreign leaders around the world.

They are all eager to know what it takes to do a deal with Donald Trump. That's what they want to know.

Which one of y'all started off the week thinking Donald Trump buying Greenland would be the big story?

Or what about Trump taking back the Panama Canal and renaming those beaches of Cancun, the Gulf of America.

Oh, and while we're at it, did you say goodbye to Justin Trudeau?

You know, the governor of Canada, America's 51st state, which Trump is threatening with a 25% tariff?

I know what you're thinking. Is he really going to do this stuff? Trump has to be trolling us.

Well, maybe not. Maybe there's a method to his madness, some clear goals and a few bedrock

principles guiding them. That may be the case, according to this week's guest.

He's willing to say outrageous things, create unpredictability, and then act in a way that

hopefully lands the plane in a more reasonable position.

Michael Frommon is the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, which is damn

impressive on its own.

But he also served as the U.S. Trade Representative during President

Barack Obama's second term, where he supervised negotiations for the Trans-Pacific Partnership,

among other things. Before that, Frommon held multiple senior roles in the Clinton administration,

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