The Art of Nuance

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🗓️ 4 September 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Erick Erickson, host of 95.5 WSB’s Atlanta’s Evening News and creator of The Resurgent, joins Sarah and Steve on the latest Dispatch Podcast to state the case for the president’s re-election, despite his own wide-ranging reservations about Trumpism and the future of the Republican party. To Erickson, Trump represents the lesser of two evils—acting on the better judgement of behind-the-scenes administration officials to move forward beneficial policies like the Israel-UAE deal, the Trump Tax Reform Plan, and economic deregulation. When pressed about dangerous outgrowths of the populist right, like the QAnon conspiracy theory, Erickson contends that the misinformation crisis coincided with the country’s lost faith in the media. He says that when journalists for self-described nonpartisan mainstream news sources publicly exposed their biases on verified Twitter accounts, many Americans abandoned orthodox news sources in favor of word-of-mouth and alternative media. “All of this plays into more and more people tuning out of media and tuning into their friends on Facebook, and not being able to distinguish truth from fiction,” Erickson said. Listen to the end for a spirited discussion about the luxuries of adulthood, during which Steve inevitably brings up Spanish wine and Sarah shares her clever method to track down the best mattress in your area. Show Notes: -Erick Erickson’s online publication The Resurgent -Atlanta’s Evening News with Erick Erickson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to our special Friday Dispatch podcast. I'm your host, Sara Izger, joined by Steve Hayes.
0:06.4	This podcast is brought to you by the dispatch. Visit the dispatch.com to see our full slate of newsletters and podcasts
0:12.8	and subscribe to this podcast so you never miss an episode.
0:16.0	Our guest today is Eric Erickson, editor of the resurgent and host of the Eric Erickson show on WSB Radio.
0:23.0	He has been both ACNN and Fox News contributor. He appears regularly on NBC's Meet the Press, Bill Mar.
0:29.5	You name it. I'm sure you guys are well aware of Eric Erickson.
0:33.5	And what an interesting position he is in has someone who did not vote for the president in 2016,
0:40.2	but has said on Twitter and elsewhere that he probably will vote for the president this time.
0:44.5	So we're going to dig into what all that means for Eric.
0:59.6	Let's dive right in. Eric Erickson with us today, which is pretty exciting.
1:06.4	Eric, I think the last time that we actually chatted in person, I guess, was 2016 at the Texas Tribune Festival.
1:15.3	Wow, yeah, it has been a while, hadn't it?
1:17.0	It has been a long time and I feel like you've been on this evolution of Ericness. We'll call it.
1:24.6	Pre 2016, post 2016. And so I haven't really got to talk to you.
1:29.9	Obviously, we follow each other on Twitter. I find you, you know, to be fun and delightful
1:34.9	and always thought provoking there. But this is a treat to get to talk to you in person.
1:38.8	So here's my opening question to you. What do you say to a conservative voter,
1:46.0	like a policy conservative voter who was a fan of the Tea Party and really believed in what
1:51.2	the Tea Party stood for about who they should vote for in November?
1:55.6	Oh, this is so that you would you're basically asking for is the conversation I have with myself
2:01.2	in the mirror almost every day. I'm good enough. I'm smart enough and dog got it.
2:09.5	Okay, so here's my thinking. And when I say to people who have this conversation,
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