'Mostly Peaceful'

The Dispatch Podcast

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🗓️ 2 September 2020

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

On the campaign trail and throughout his presidency, Donald Trump has painted himself as a law and order candidate. We’re now three years into Donald Trump’s America and waves of violence and racial unrest are sweeping across America, most recently in Kenosha, Wisconsin, following the police shooting of Jacob Blake. Do the riots and looting in Kenosha benefit Trump electorally? It’s hard to say whether the rioters and Antifa supporters—who are burning down small businesses and hitting innocent bystanders with concrete water bottles—are supporting Biden’s campaign or even voting at all. But if everyone thinks that the left is a monolithic movement—as alleged by Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump—that’s a bad look for the Biden campaign. “If you can get successfully tagged as the party of people who are setting fire to Korean grocery stores,” Jonah warns, “You’ve got a huge problem.” Listen to today’s episode for some thoughts on the way our preferred media outlets warp our worldview, ongoing Senate races nationwide, and an update on election meddling from foreign actors as we approach November 3. Show Notes: -“Fiery But Mostly Peaceful Protests After Police Shooting” chyron on CNN and last month’s statement from NCSC Director William Evanina on foreign election interference. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome back to the Dispatch Podcast. I'm your host, Sarah Isger, joined by Steve Hayes,
0:05.0	Jonah Goldberg, and our staff writer, Andrew Egger. This podcast is brought to you by the
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0:14.9	make sure to subscribe to this podcast so you never miss an episode. We'll hear a little
0:18.8	later from our sponsor today, Gabby. The topics for today got some good ones. Trump and Biden
0:26.0	set to visit Wisconsin. Does the media narrative matter? Update on our Senate races for 2020 and
0:33.6	the Intel briefings on election interference.
0:36.2	Let's dive right in. Steve, it's your lucky week. We start off with your home state.
0:57.2	Yeah, my question is pretty straightforward. Does what's happening in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and
1:06.5	beyond work to the political benefit of Donald Trump or no? It's certainly the case that Donald
1:14.3	Trump and his supporters and advisors believe that the chaos that we've seen in pockets in these
1:22.1	various cities and the perception that it's growing or could be growing is a boon to their campaign.
1:29.6	You had a comment from Kellyanne Conway, on Fox News saying in effect, when there's chaos,
1:35.1	voters are going to look for President Trump to end it, and that helps President Trump. I've
1:41.1	talked to other Trump advisors who have said much the same thing and think that at least internally,
1:48.0	they believe that they're seeing a change in support, not just a change in narrative.
1:54.9	My question is pretty simple. In July of 2016, Donald Trump sent a tweet in which he said,
2:02.5	this election is going to be out about law and order and safety versus chaos and crime.
2:08.9	That was four years ago. And here he is making essentially the same promise.
2:15.6	Doesn't he get dingged for presiding over the kind of unrest that we've seen? Jonah?
2:26.9	It's strange how he does get... I'm sort of in a weird sort of
2:37.1	sort of twilight-zoni place where I don't quite get how some of the political narratives out there
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