The Art of Listening: An Eight Step Approach to Connection with Emily Kasriel

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Ian Morgan Cron

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🗓️ 11 September 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

This week, we explore the art of listening and the complexities of human personality through the lens of the Enneagram with Emily Kasriel, an award-winning journalist, executive coach, and author of the new book, Deep Listening: Transform Your Relationships with Family, Friends, and Foes.

Emily shares her journey of self-awareness and the importance of deep listening in our everyday interactions. She discusses her experiences at the BBC, the challenges of listening in high-stakes situations, and the powerful eight-step approach to deep listening outlined in her book.

Discover how to create psychological safety in conversations, the significance of being present, and the value of curiosity in understanding others. We also examine the nuances of the Enneagram, helping listeners discern their personality types and how they can enhance their listening skills.

Whether you're new to the Enneagram or a seasoned enthusiast, this episode is packed with insights that can transform your relationships and deepen your understanding of yourself and others.

Key Highlights:

The concept of deep listening and its importance in today's world
The eight-step process for effective deep listening
Personal anecdotes and reflections on self-awareness
The interplay between personality types and listening styles

Don't forget to grab a copy of Emily's book, Deep Listening, and join the conversation about how we can all become better listeners!

Subscribe to Typology for more insights on personality and relationships!

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0:00.0	Hey folks and welcome to Typology, the show on which we explore the mystery of the human
0:09.7	personality and the great human adventure all through the lens of the Enneagram.
0:15.0	My name is Anthony Skinner, your producer and co-host.
0:17.6	Hey folks, I'm glad you're here.
0:19.5	We've got a really great guest today. So, two parts, right?
0:24.5	On the Enneagram side of things, she comes in, our guest, I'm going to hold her name just for a minute,
0:30.8	and she's taking Ian's assessment. She is not familiar with the Enneagram, perhaps even a little bit skeptical,
0:39.6	tested high seven,
0:44.7	high eight, and we walk through seven or eight throughout the podcast.
0:46.7	So that's really cool, and that's a lot of fun.
0:57.8	Then she's got this great new book from which she practices some of the principles of this book in real time with Ian as she asked him some questions.
0:59.0	And I think it's very powerful.
1:00.6	So now let me tell you her name and give you some of her history and tell you the title of
1:05.5	this book that you're going to want to go get.
1:07.5	Emily Castriel, that's what I'm talking about, an award-winning journalist, editor, and she was
1:13.6	media executive for more than 20 years at the BBC. We all love the BBC here at Typology. She is also
1:21.2	a senior visiting research fellow at King's College, London's Policy Institute, and she is an accredited executive coach and workplace
1:30.1	mediator. So that's a bit of her resume. But check this out. She's authored a new book,
1:36.2	Deep Listening, Transform Your Relationships with Family, Friends, and Fos. In this book,
1:42.7	she lays out this really simple but powerful eight-step approach
1:46.8	to moving beyond surface-level conversations. And she does a little bit of a practicum for us with
1:55.0	Ian today. So you're going to want to listen to this. You're going to want to get this book.
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