The Art of Effective Communication and Influence
Win Make Give with Ben Kinney
Ben Kinney Training
4.9 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Ben Kinney, Chad Hyams, and Bob Stewart discuss the concept of 'trickling' in leadership, exploring how ideas, problems, and energy can move through various directions within personal and professional relationships. The trio delves into strategies for effectively managing conversations in ways that inspire accountability and positivity, rather than inadvertently spreading negativity. Learn about balancing what to share with peers, subordinates, and mentors, ensuring impactful communication. The episode also touches on how actions influence children and employees, fostering intentional interactions that uplift rather than drain energy.
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Part of the Win Make Give Podcast Network
00:00 Effective Leadership Through Positive Communication and Accountability
06:00 The Impact of Adult Conversations on Children's Perceptions
08:47 The Impact of Leadership and Energy on Workplace Dynamics
13:18 The Impact of Negative Talk on Workplace Morale
15:25 Trickling Up, Down, and Sideways for Problem Solving and Growth
22:45 Impact of Communication on Relationships and Workplace Dynamics
24:48 The Trickle Effect: Impact and Direction in Daily Interactions
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Win Make Give podcast. |
| 0:09.8 | This is Ben Kinney, joined today with Chad Heim's and Bob Stewart. |
| 0:13.9 | Wait, who? |
| 0:15.0 | Ben Kinney? |
| 0:15.9 | And Chad Heimbs. |
| 0:16.7 | We are back, Bob Stewart. |
| 0:18.2 | You're not taking over this podcast. |
| 0:19.8 | Man, I thought I was going to replace you guys. I had a new co-host in here for a little while, but I'm glad to see you guys. Yeah, you did do a good job there with Brian, but you cannot replace us. We are like a rash. We grow on you over time. You cannot get rid of us. Ladies and gentlemen, Penicillin. |
| 0:39.1 | Today we're going to have another leadership lesson. |
| 0:42.2 | Have you ever been in a situation with your family or with somebody at work and they're coming to you and they're complaining or venting to you about something that you have no ability to change. |
| 0:59.0 | I think I just did that to you like five seconds ago, bad. |
| 1:02.0 | Is that a real question? |
| 1:04.0 | I mean, that's absolutely. |
| 1:06.0 | Right. |
| 1:06.7 | And only thing it really does is lower your mood and lower your productivity because now |
| 1:15.8 | you're thinking about Bob's ridiculous problem that he should be able to figure out on |
| 1:19.9 | his own without bothering us. |
| 1:21.3 | Yep. |
| 1:21.9 | Right? |
| 1:22.7 | You ever seen parents or heard of parents or had your parents fight about money or problems in front of you as a kid |
| 1:30.6 | and you, you as a child, you look around and you're like, there's nothing I can do about my |
| 1:36.5 | parents' money problems or relationship problems or whatever, but you, but you as a child, |
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