Progress in some areas like for example self-driving cars

Has not been as rapid as as everyone predicted and I think part of the reason that it turns out that driving a car in

Say New York City in traffic

With pedestrians and bicyclists and all of that

It probably does require something at least pretty close to human level intelligence in order to do that

To deal with that that kind of a environment that is so unpredictable and that's why

The ironic thing is that you know the taxi driver isn't yet threatened

But the the consultant at Bain or McKinsey that you know has has a Harvard MBA degree might be threatened right

You

It's great to welcome back to the podcast futurist Ted speaker the author of both rise of the robots

Which was a New York Times bestseller and is more recent rule of the robots how artificial intelligence will transform everything

Martin Ford welcome back Martin. Thanks for having me Andrew good to be here now

So Martin you and I met at Ted in 2017

I was very influenced by your book

Rise of the robots which won awards for its pressions and you were digging into the fact that

AI was going to come online is going to change businesses going to change a lot of things

Now is your phone ringing off the hook with chat GPT

Arriving on the scene is everyone like Martin Martin. What the heck do we do?

Yeah, well, I wouldn't say off the hook, but definitely yeah

I've been talking about from for a long time is definitely getting a lot of attention

And you know, yeah, some you know both of us kind of anticipated this in some way right although

It's interesting

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