There's no shortage of tech podcasts, but few give you a true dose of the future.

The A16Z podcast is an exception.

It takes you straight to the innovators behind new materials, data centers, self-driving cars,

even electric boats, eavesdrop on the future with the A16Z podcast.

HBR presents.

Hi there, I'm Azim Azar and you're listening to the exponential view podcast now every week.

I come together with a brilliant mind to explore how exponential technologies are shaping

our near future.

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Now my guess this week is the technology correspondent of the New York Times Kade Metz.

Kade has covered the fast-evolving technology landscape for many years, reporting on the latest

in artificial intelligence, driverless cars, VR and much more.

Today we're talking about his new book, Genius Makers, which tells the story of the Mavericks

who brought AI into the mainstream just over the past decade.

How those scientists transformed many of the products from Google, Facebook and others,

ones that we use every day.

It's a thrilling journey through the last 20 years or so of AI, focusing on the key individuals

who've led the way, including many of the previous guests of this podcast like Demis Hassab,

Sam Altman, Jürgen Schmidhuber and Andrew Ng.

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