It's Tuesday, October the 4th, 2022, and welcome back to Goodfellas, a Hoover Institution

broadcast examining social, economic, political, and geopolitical concerns.

I'm Bill Whalen. I'm the Vincent Van Gogh fellow here at the Hoover Institution.

But the one good ear that I do have, I will be listening intently to the stars of our show, the good fellows to refer to them.

That would be the historian, Neil Ferguson, the economist John Cochran, the geo-stratagist, Lieutenant General Ahtraimaxor, they are Hoover Institution Senior Fellows, all. And joining us today to round out a conversation about America's political landscape, no better person to turn to than Carl Rove.

Carl Rove is, of course, what America's most preeminent political strategist and consultants.

He writes an always insightful column for the Wall Street Journal that you should read.

And in case you're not aware of political details, he earned the nickname, The Architect,

it was given to him by no less than President George W. Bush on the occasion of President

Bush being reelected. Carl, if I'm a history right, that is the only time that the American

president has lost the popular vote, but then been reelected four years later. Carl, welcome to Goodfellows.

Did you hear the one about the economists, the general, and the historian who walk into a bar and meet a political hack?

I mean, what is this going on?

Also, don't get carried away with the architect label.

He also called me turdblossom, which was the nickname that he gave me whenever I was right,

he knew it and didn't want to admit it. So good nicknames come with bad ones too.

But architect is a, it's a coveted title, right? I remember George Costanza on Seinfeld, Art Van Dele-A,

the architect. I like Art Van Dele-Lay.

Art Van DeLay Art Van der Leigh.

He's an obscure writer.

It was one of his personas.

I keep getting letters from state architectural board saying,

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