The Apology Episode, 5782: Ep. 287

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Judaism, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2021

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to our annual apology episode! As we do every year, we searched far and wide for stories about apologies, forgiveness, and repentance. We hope this episode inspires you to approach Yom Kippur with some new insights and appreciation for making amends. First, we speak with legal scholar and Former Dean of Harvard Law School Martha Minow about US law and forgiveness, and whether the justice system should perhaps be more forgiving. Then, Rabbi Jonathan Spira-Savett, host of the new podcast Tov!, speaks with Producer Robert about the concept of teshuva, repentance, and the source he believes can educate us all on repentance--NBC's The Good Place, starring Kristen Bell and Ted Danson. Next, writer Simone Ellin recounts her experience confronting her childhood bullies, and uncovers the surprising truth about how others remember events that were so traumatic to her. We hear from author Susan Shapiro about her new memoir, The Forgiveness Tour, which explores many of the subjects we talk about when we talk about apologies--should you forgive someone who doesn't apologize, what Judaism has to say about forgiveness, and whether some sins are truly unpardonable. And you know it isn't an Unorthodox apology episode without a visit from our favorite apology expert, former Tablet colleague and Founder of the blog SorryWatch, Marjorie Ingall. Sorry, not sorry. As always, let us know what you think of the show! Send us comments and questions at unorthodox@tabletmag.com, or leave us a voicemail at (914) 570-4869. You can also record a voice memo on your smartphone and email it to us. Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to get new episodes, photos, and more. Join our Facebook group, and follow Unorthodox on Twitter and Instagram. Get a behind-the-scenes look at our recording sessions on our YouTube channel! Get your Unorthodox T-shirts, mugs, and baby onesies at bit.ly/unorthoshirt. Want to book us for a live show? Email producer Josh Kross at jkross@tabletmag.com. Check out all of Tablet’s podcasts at tabletmag.com/podcasts. Sponsors: AJWS supports activists working with vulnerable communities around the globe throughout the ongoing pandemic. Make your double-matched, tax-deductible donation today at AJWS.org/unorthodox. Harry’s is a great shave at a great price. Get a Harry's trial shave set for just $3 at harrys.com/unorthodox.

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0:00.0	This is on Orthodox, the universe's leading Jewish podcast.
0:05.7	I'm your host, Mark Oppenheimer, joined as ever by a fellow co-host,
0:10.0	haveled editor at large, Liel Lieberwitz.
0:12.8	I'm so sorry, Mark. I am so sorry to you.
0:16.0	What are you sorry for? What do you, come on, get specific.
0:18.8	How did you wrong me? Did you see, I feel like now we're having one of those
0:21.9	relationship moments, I beg. I just said I'm sorry.
0:24.5	Yeah, do you know what you're sorry for? It's like, come on.
0:27.3	Whatever you want me to be sorry for.
0:29.9	Specifix.
0:31.1	For unkind things I said about your hair.
0:34.8	For unkind things I said about your corduroy.
0:37.6	Right, for sins committed while getting dressed in the morning and
0:40.9	envying you, Liel, for your wardrobe.
0:43.6	Right. It is our annual Yum Kippur apology episode.
0:46.4	We talked about repentance, forgiveness, Toshuva.
0:49.2	And, you know, once again, here we are.
0:51.6	It's the, the cost of 5782.
0:54.5	I'm wondering if I should actually apologize to the people.
0:57.2	I'm aligned behind their backs because that seems self-serving.
1:00.4	They don't want to know about it. Better left unsaid.
1:02.8	Trying to work up the courage to apologize to that person who probably won't forgive me,
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