The Ape and the Sushi Master

The Splendid Table: Conversations & Recipes For Curious Cooks & Eaters

American Public Media

Arts, Food

4.3 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2002

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

It's a real variety show this week with controversies over apes with Dr. Frans de Waal, one of the world's leading primatologists and author of The Ape and the Sushi Master. Dr. de Waal theorizes that apes are more like us than we think, and it's demonstrated in how they deal with food.

Jane and Michael Stern are eating breakfast old-California style at the Ramona Café. The outrageous Joe Queenan, author of Balsamic Dreams, tells a tale of yuppies, rat hunting, and balsamic vinegar. Jewish-food authority Matthew Goodman reports on Toronto Blueberry Buns, gadget guru Dorie Greenspan evaluates salad spinners, and Lynne has a recipe forGreek Parsley Potatoes.

Broadcast dates for this episode:

August 18, 2001 (originally aired)
July 27, 2002 (rebroadcast)

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0:00.0	Our common nature is a musical journey with Yo-Yo Ma and me, Ana Gonzalez, through this complicated country.
0:08.1	We go into caves, onto boats, and up mountain trails to meet people, hear their stories, their poetry, and of course, play some music, all to reconnect to nature and get closer to the things we're missing.
0:24.4	Listen to Our Common Nature from WNYC, wherever you get podcasts.
0:31.9	It's Lynn Rosetta Casper with The Splendid Table.
0:43.6	Music with the splendid table. Today it's controversies over apes, yuppies, and salad spinners.
0:48.0	We're talking with Dr. Franz Duval.
0:50.2	He's one of the world's leading primatologists,
0:52.9	and he's developed a controversial theory that monkeys are more like us than we think.
0:58.2	And it shows up in how they deal with food.
1:00.9	His book is The Ape and the Sushi Master.
1:03.7	Jane and Michael Stern are eating John Wayne breakfasts in the California desert.
1:07.9	Equipment guru Dori Greenspan examines the culture of the salad spinner.
1:12.2	The outrageous Joe Quinen reads from his book, Balsamic Dreams, and Matthew Goodman reports on the Buns of Toronto.
1:19.1	All this and your calls coming up on the splendid table.
1:29.0	But first this.
1:41.3	It's Lynn Rosetta, Casper, with Kitchen Chronicles, where knowledge is power and cooking is pleasure,
1:45.7	a practical guide for nourishing ourselves and the people we care about.
1:48.8	The time has come.
1:56.7	My favorite herb is in its prime right this minute, so it's time to use it like there's no tomorrow and to freeze lots of it for winter.
1:59.6	Okay?
2:00.5	What is this paragon of lusciousness? It's basil,
2:04.6	fresh basil, picked in its prime. Now that means that the flowers on the top of the plant
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