The Anti-Dictator Playbook with Nicholas Gruen

That Trippi Show

Joe Trippi

Politics, News, Government, News Commentary

4.8 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

When politics feels broken, polarized, and paralyzed, what’s the real solution? In this episode of That Trippi Show, Joe Trippi sits down with Nicholas Gruen to discuss an idea that could fundamentally reshape American democracy: citizens’ assemblies chosen by democratic sortition — randomly selected Americans serving in a permanent civic body, similar to a jury. Could a “Citizen’s House” reduce polarization, weaken special interests, and restore trust in government? From the Michigan Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission to the “America in One Room” experiment, this episode explores the evidence behind a model that may calm the chaos of modern politics. If Washington can’t fix itself, can the people? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:37.4	Hey everybody, it's Joe Trippy and welcome back to a special guest episode of That Trippy show.
0:45.0	When it seems like every day, there's a new fire to put out from ice killing people in the streets to Trump threatening to nationalize elections, It's easy to feel like our institutions have failed us.
0:58.2	What's the solution?
1:00.4	A while back, we had my friend Nicholas Gruen on to discuss an innovative idea he's had,
1:06.8	and he and I've been talking about it for quite a while, involving we, the people, to directly
1:13.3	influence change.
1:15.8	His idea for citizens' juries is a fascinating one.
1:20.2	And now in 2026, it could be the way out of this mess as we try to find ways to find real solutions and stop the paralyzed mess in
1:34.0	Washington.
1:34.7	So I thought you'd want to hear this conversation with my good friend, Nicholas Gruen.
1:40.3	Nicholas, welcome back.
1:41.9	Gidey, Joe.
1:43.3	We've been talking about this. I can tell you, we've been talking about this since
1:46.5	halfway through 2016. And it's never been the right time. And, of course, everybody is working
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