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Hello and welcome to Political Thinking. Thinking about politics isn't very easy these days

because we seem to live in a permanent revolution and constant chaos. I was due to interview

Angela Rainer, Labour's deputy leader just seven weeks ago. It was the day after Liz Trusses,

Prime Minister's questions. It was the day of Liz Trusses' energy price guarantee. It turned out

to be the day that Her Majesty, the Queen, died and so much changed. Well, just seven weeks later,

we are now in the week of Rishi Sue-Nex's first Prime Minister's questions at Angela Rainer,

is back on Political Thinking. Welcome back. I made it. Yeah. How are you finding this rollercoaster?

Because that's what it is. I mean, I thought when I was elected in 2015, the wheels fell off.

Politics then. Because we had the EU referendum. We had our front bench suddenly became the

back bench and the back bench suddenly became the front bench who had numerous leadership

challenges in the Labour party. It was incredibly surreal, fast-paced time. And then of course,

the last seven weeks, as you say, have been a rollercoaster in itself. I'm counting. You've only

been in the commons since 2015. You've had one, two, three, five Prime Ministers. All Tory, I might say.

Yes, exactly. And quite a lot has happened. I just wouldn't predict the next month.

The way things are, we've had three Prime Ministers and three months. So I thought it slowed down.

It actually has just got even more chaotic. And obviously when you're in opposition, that

slightly changes how you pitch yourself because you're pitching against the personality of the Tory

leader of the day. It was very noticeable that at the beginning of Prime Ministers questions,

Keir Starmer, and I thought he was sending a message to his own party as well as to the country

congratulated Rishi Sunak as the first Britishation to become Prime Minister.

I just think the whole country, and then it was Diwali as well. And the whole country was just,

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