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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz

The Anchormen Show EP 111 - The Case Against American Empire w/ Pearson Sharp and Scott Horton

The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz

Matt Gaetz

News, News Commentary

4.44.8K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Director of the Libertarian Institute Scott Horton offers his anti-interventionist perspective on America’s involvement in the Iran War and the conflict in Ukraine—asking how the United States concludes the conflicts and whether the cost of American lives and treasure is worth the benefit.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Now it's time for the Anchorman podcast with Matt Gates and Pearson Sharp.

0:13.3

Welcome back to the Anchorman Show. We've got a big program for you. We're going to go all over the world with a real foreign policy expert in some of these

0:21.0

major hotspots that have been arising. We want to debate and discuss them. And so joining us will be,

0:27.1

of course, my co-host, as always, Pearson Sharp, the host of the Sharp Report here on One America

0:31.5

News. I host the Matt Gates show every weeknight, 9 o'clock Eastern, 6th Pacific. And we've got with us now

0:37.3

director of the

0:38.4

Scott Horton Academy of Foreign Policy and Freedom, also director of the Libertarian Institute,

0:43.9

author of Enough Already, time to end the war on terrorism. Scott Horton, Scott, thanks so much

0:49.7

for being with us. I want to delve into a number of places on the globe where we see conflict arising,

0:56.6

but of course we're going to start in the Middle East, the ongoing war between the United

1:00.6

States and Iran. Let's get your assessment of where you think things stand right now and

1:05.6

how you believe each country is doing compared to their objectives.

1:13.9

Yeah, well, and that is the correct way to frame it,

1:18.4

I think, of course, and this has been the argument of the anti-war crowd all along. Nobody's naive about the ultimate firepower of the American military machine. Can America devastate Iran

1:25.7

even without using nuclear weapons at all, but just with our B-52s?

1:30.1

If we're willing to lose enough planes to really take out every last bit of anti-aircraft and get total air dominance over their country, you know, America is number one, as they say, the world empire, and we have the ability to defeat them in war.

1:45.0

The question was always at what cost.

1:47.3

And it looks to me now like the American government and Israelis are going to fall quite a bit short of their stated objectives of regime change in the country,

2:00.0

or it's somehow permanent neutralization or

2:03.3

taming or you know from the Israeli point of view their wish to really take Iranian power off the

2:08.8

board completely um that looks like a failure um I'm seeing you know positive spin saying I'm sorry I

2:16.7

believe it was in the Washington Post, the headline this morning was about, well, the Mullah's regime that survives this, well, they're going to have lost a lot of money.

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