The

The Welcome to Media Roots Radio. I'm Abby Martin.

This is Robbie Martin.

Today we're excited to be joined by Yasha Levine, author of the book Surveillance Valley,

The Secret Military History of the Internet.

Yasha has discussed this book at length on this podcast with Robbie an episode that you can listen to on our archive.

In September of 2019, Yasha launched a newsletter on Substack called Immigrants as a Weapon that explores

the weaponization of nationalism and immigrant communities.

It's a very fascinating read that I recommend everyone check out.

I'm really excited to have Yasha on the program.

Hey, how's it going? Thanks for having me on.

It was great to have you on again, Yasha.

I should just say for

the audience that yasha's appearance on media roots radio uh for his surveillance valley book

uh was the most publicity media roots radio ever got it somehow got a mention in politico which was

which was pretty cool we broke through really i didn't even know that we didn't you't? I didn't send that to you. Yeah. I don't think so. The only time, the only time mainstream media decided to, um, to mention media roots radio. It was, it was really surprising. What they say? Oh, they just like said, um, it was like,

round up of things you might have missed in the last two weeks recommended viewing or something.

And it was just like a list of like five things.

And our episode was one of them.

That's great.

That's awesome.

That's interesting.

...