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I'm not quite sure where this conversation is going to go, but I'm really excited to have Tim Kuglin on his first ever podcast.

Tim, we met through an AI conference.

We didn't even connect at the conference, and I'm really excited that this week I will get to meet you in person as well.

Yeah, two days. It'll be fun.

Yeah, and you have such rich background, and you've done so many really interesting things.

So I'd love, first of all, I want to thank you for being here on the show and giving me the gift of being your first interview, not only first interview, but first podcast.

And we'll dive into that, certainly.

But I'd love for you to talk a little bit about your background, the amazing trajectory you've had, and then how that, yeah.

Yeah, let's start about how that relates to this being my first podcast.

And it's interesting that, yes, this is my first time on this side of the camera, but yet

my career goes back to being literally one of the founders of the video conferencing industry.

So I can't even claim fatherhood to it.

I'm grandfatherhood to it.

I started in 1978 by connecting people virtually and actually a couple of years prior to that noncommercially.

But I've had the ability and the luxury of a very long career in

connecting people. And I've been able to do that with most of Hollywood's A-list celebrities.

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