Hello, hello, this is Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to be unpacking the politics

of the day, from the backlash over Donald Trump's image of himself as Jesus, to whether employers

overlook the value of people who are nice, competent, and just get on with it. And joining me, nice,

competent and getting on with it in human form, it times columnist james marriott hello james

that's so kind is it good morning yeah nice and i should have added brilliant in there

nice confidence getting on it also brilliant don't feel like you have to flatter me and the and they're

equally brilliant but also pleasant charles ivers thank you so much hugo very kind let's start

with the a i generatedated image of Donald Trump,

which you might be forgiven for thinking as him depicted as Jesus. But no, no, no. Here's what

the US President says himself. I did first it, and I thought it was me as a doctor and had to do

with Red Cross as a Red Cross worker there, which we support. And only the fake news could come up with that one so I

had I just heard about it and I said how do they come up with that yeah I mean you just need to

look at it don't you it's plainly a doctor completely normal doctor try not to notice that winged

warlock angel thing floating over his head you know he'd all the birds that are circling

around that might just be vultures he's just a normal normal doctor saying hey now eat this light bulb

James this is like that viral image that people use to share of a dress some people see it gold

some people see it as blue don't some people see this as jesus some people see it as a doctor

one people see it is a generic Middle Eastern prophet could be anyone could beenty of Middle Eastern prophets going around dressed in white robes. No, it's completely spectacular. He knows it's Jesus, doesn't he? I can't work out whether he has convinced himself that he's actually completely in the right or whether he is just deciding to just lie all the way through it completely consciously. I don't think his mind works like that. I think he may have thought it was Jesus-ish at the time, but now he's going, no, no, no, it's a doctor. I can't have got this wrong. Yeah, I think reality just reorganises itself around the trumpy and ego, doesn't it? And he just sort of sees what he wants to see. It is completely remarkable because it is absolutely definitely Jesus.

Yes.

I would have gone for a different excuse other than Doctor.

There must be something else you could have gone for that was more plausibly Jesus looking than Doctor.

He could have been, we could have just been like, yeah, I aspire to be like Jesus, as other people should.

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