There's a lot of people who really just think AI is going to go away.

There's something here that this isn't real.

The systems aren't as good as you say they are.

They make mistakes. This is real. I talk to CEOs all the time. They are getting value out of it. It's funny because they'll say things like, oh, 10 million, 20 million here, nothing significant yet. But like, they're getting value out of these systems. there has not been major layoffs because of AI yet.

I don't think that continues infinitely.

No.

Maybe people get better jobs,

but we need the system. out of these systems. There has not been major layoffs because of AI yet. I don't think that continues infinitely.

No.

Maybe people get better jobs,

but, like,

we need the systems in place

to cushion it,

which we believe this is real.

Hello, and welcome.

Why is this happening with me?

Your host, Chris Hayes.

Yeah. Hello and welcome. Why is this happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes. Well, we're here for another special edition of our AI series with Pod the AI Endgame.

And today I want to sort of focus on neither the best case scenario nor the worst case scenario.

But a trajectory in which these things really are

incredibly powerful and transformational, in which the kind of more maximalist claims of its backers

basically come true short of the end all human life on the planet, which we can sort of put in

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