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The AI Control Loop: AI Discovery isn't just AI - with Tim Ebbers of Wallarm

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders

Noah Labhart - Startup Founder & CTO

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5.0217 Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2026

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Today, we are dropping another episode in our series The AI Control Loop, How enterprises govern the AI they've already deployed - sponsored by our friends at Wallarm. Wallarm is the AI Control Platform for Enterprise AI, protecting every AI workload, API, and application in production, giving CISOs the governance they need and CIOs the speed they demand. Organizations choose Wallarm for a complete inventory of APIs, AI agents, and AI apps, patented AI/ML-based threat detection and blocking that operates at production traffic speeds. We all know that you can't secure what you can't see, which is why AI discovery is a first principle for AI security, but what's really required for AI discovery? It's more than just LLMs and agents. Today's episode is entitled AI Discovery isn't just AI, and joining us is Tim Ebbers, Field CTO at Wallarm. Tim and I discuss the real requirements for AI discovery, and why the connections between assets and infrastructure are part of the puzzle. Our Sponsors: * Check out Cash App and use my code CASHAPP10 for a great deal: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/mt82fpxl #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Cash App Green, overdraft coverage, borrow, cash back offers and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. * Check out Plaud AI and use my code CODESTORY for a great deal: https://plaud.ai Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Hello listeners. Today we are dropping another episode in our series the AI Control Loop. How

0:07.8

Enterprises govern the AI they've already deployed, sponsored by our friends at Wallarm.

0:13.6

Wallarm is the AI control platform for Enterprise AI, protecting every AI workload, API and application in production, giving CSOs the governance

0:22.6

they need and CIOs the speed they demand.

0:25.6

Organizations choose Wallarm for a complete inventory of APIs, AI agents, and AI apps,

0:31.6

using patented AI ML-based threat detection and blocking that operates at production traffic speeds.

0:38.3

We all know that you can't secure what you can't see, which is why AI Discovery is a first principle for AI security.

0:47.3

But what's really required for AI Discovery? It's more than just LLMs and agents.

0:52.3

Today's episode is entitled AI Discovery Isn't Just AI.

0:57.7

And joining us is Tim Ebers, field CTO at Wallarm.

1:01.9

Tim and I discuss the real requirements for AI discovery

1:05.1

and why the connections between assets and infrastructure are part of the puzzle.

1:11.3

Tim, thanks for being on the show today. Thank you for being on Code Story.

1:15.1

Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be here.

1:16.9

Excited to dive into our topic today all around AI discovery. Before we do, tell me in my audience

1:23.1

a little bit about you. Sure. I've been in and around the industry for many years. I've spent half

1:27.8

my time as a customer of vendors and then the other half as a vendor. I not only understand

1:33.3

what customers go through, but have been a customer and have gone through it. I love being an

1:37.3

operator, but I love data as much as being an operator. And AI seems to put both of them together

1:41.7

very quickly, which is why I jumped into the middle of the AI things that we're doing at Walmart.

1:47.2

Yeah, for sure. And it's an exciting time, no doubt. What do you do for fun?

1:51.4

I actually live on a ranch. My son and I are ropers. So we go help ranchers with their cows. My daughter trains horses as well as my son does.

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