The Agent Who Discovered Roy DeMeo
Gangland Wire
Gary Jenkins
4.6 • 647 Ratings
🗓️ 26 January 2026
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Craig explains how the project grew out of his collaboration with retired FBI agent Anthony John Nelson, whose career spanned the most violent and chaotic years of New York’s Mafia history. From Nelson’s early days as a radio dispatcher in 1969 to his transition into undercover and frontline investigative work, the book captures the gritty reality of law enforcement during the 1970s and 1980s.
We explore how Nelson’s career mirrored the evolution of organized crime and law-enforcement tactics, including the rise of undercover stings, inter-agency cooperation, and the increasing role of technology. Craig highlights the close working relationship between Nelson and NYPD detective Kenny McCabe, whose deep knowledge of Mafia families and quiet professionalism led to major breakthroughs against organized crime. He tells how these two investigators wathced and uncovered the Gambino Family Roy DeMeo crew under Paul Castellano and Nino Gaggi.
Throughout the conversation, Craig shares vivid, often humorous slice-of-life stories from the book—tense undercover moments, dangerous confrontations, and the emotional toll of living a double life. These anecdotes reveal not only the danger of the job, but the camaraderie and resilience that sustained agents and detectives working in the shadows. The episode closes with a reminder that Empire City Under Siege is as much about honoring unsung law-enforcement professionals as it is about mob history. Craig encourages listeners to support true-crime storytelling that preserves these firsthand accounts before they’re lost to time.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, all you wiretappers. Good to be back here in studio of Gangland Wire. I say the same thing every time. |
| 0:04.2 | I hope it doesn't bore you too much, but I am back here in the Gangland Wire Studio. |
| 0:08.6 | And I have today an author who interviewed and wrote a book with an FBI agent named Anthony John Nelson, |
| 0:17.7 | who was one of the premier FBI agents in New York City that was working the |
| 0:22.4 | mob. And even more interesting about him to me was he formed a partnership with a local |
| 0:28.2 | coffer named Kenny McCabe, who you may know the name. I had read the name before several |
| 0:33.3 | times as I started researching this and looking at the book. But he was the mobbuster supreme, |
| 0:39.4 | and Agent Nelson really formed a dynamic duo. But first, let's start talking to Craig, |
| 0:44.3 | your book Empire City Undersees, Three Decades of New York Field, FBI Field Office Manhunts, |
| 0:50.3 | Murders and Mafia Wars. How did you get involved with Anthony John Nelson? |
| 0:55.7 | Hi, Gary. |
| 0:56.4 | Thanks for having you on your show. |
| 0:57.5 | Big fan. |
| 0:58.2 | Appreciate the opportunity. |
| 0:59.9 | Very interesting and winding path that led me to Anthony's doorstep. |
| 1:04.9 | I also previously wrote another book, |
| 1:07.6 | Carmine and the 13th Avenue Boys, |
| 1:09.3 | which was about an enforcer in the |
| 1:12.5 | Colombo family during the Third Colombo War. And I was introduced to Carmine Imbriali through |
| 1:18.7 | Thomas Dades. Tommy Dades, he's famous retired NYPD detective. So after the success of that |
| 1:26.6 | book, Tommy introduced me to another member of law enforcement. |
| 1:30.1 | I started to work on a project that sort of fell apart. And one of the sort of consultants, |
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