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Hello this is Daniel Finkelstein sitting in for Matt Chorley and this is The Times Red Box Politics

podcast. Today I've been talking to George Osborne about what really is the right age to run for office.

Well I started working with George Osborne when he was the political secretary to the leader of the

opposition and he was 26 years old.

He was the leader of the opposition himself was only 35 years old and then George was shadow

Chancellor at the age of 33.

So I thought he'd be a good person to ask about the right age to enter politics, the right age to run for

office and what you do if you leave politics when you're still relatively

youthful so good morning George. Good morning Danny what I never thought I'd be on your radio show. I'm very excited.

I'm excited to have you. Listen, given that the US has one of the oldest presidential

candidates in history, indeed it's the oldest presidential candidates in history.

Indeed, it's the oldest presidential pairing in the race.

I thought that might be quite a good place to start.

Joe Biden is 77.

Is he too old?

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