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The Age Of Cargo | The TEU | 3

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History, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary

3.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Malcolm McLean was a frustrated truck driver who thought there had to be a better way. The metal box he invented now carries 90% of the world's traded goods — and quietly runs the global economy.


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0:00.0

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0:04.4

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0:13.4

So sign up on legacy.organtz.comptv. So this series, we are looking at great inventions.

0:20.8

We have covered so far Amphari. we've covered the Roman Empire, we've covered steamships, oil, war. Today we're going to look at something a little bit different, Afwa. But I wonder, do you, are you interested in where things come from? Do you, are you, buy local, do you turn things over in the shop to see where they've come from? Are you conscious about carbon emissions? Is that something you pay a lot of attention to? I try. I try to

0:43.0

pay attention. I'm not someone who spends ages reading every single label, but I have tried to

0:48.4

build my understanding of what comes from where and be conscious when I buy things to try and buy

0:53.9

things that are in season,

0:55.5

not to be dependent on things that necessarily come long distances. But of course, I'm human and

1:00.5

there are some exceptions, Peter. Like I can't really survive without fresh mango in my life.

1:05.2

I struggle without avocados, you know, and these things are expensive. They're painful to buy

1:10.6

because of the cost, but also I know that

1:13.0

they involve these not very carbon-friendly journey. So I try to think of them as a treat rather than

1:19.2

the main event, but it's pretty hard sometimes even to try and work out where the food you're

1:24.1

buying in supermarkets is coming from. It's not always made that obvious. And even if you go to farmers markets, which I do as well, some of the things in the farmers market are also imported. It's funny when we talk about where things come from in food miles. That's a conversation that is completely natural now with food, that you go to a restaurant. You want to know that the restaurant where you're having lunch or supper has, you know, a good relationship with local farmers, that the sausages aren't coming from

1:46.0

too far away. But I wonder why it is that we ask that about food miles, but we don't ask that

1:51.8

about other things, you know, your TV set or your remote control or your coffee mug. You know,

1:57.9

we tend not to think about hard stuff. Is that because the food lobby has been better at explaining that there are carbon emissions to do with supply chains evolve animals too? Is that why, I mean, sort of slightly at a loss, why you don't, you know, you don't think that when you, when you pop into local Dixons or, you know, you go to a bookshop, you ask where the tree was cut down where it came from, or where the it comes from. But I think it has a lot to do with cost, Peter. I mean, you can buy locally grown spinach, you know, it might cost you a couple of pence extra. But if you want to buy a locally made car, for example, our made in Britain brands, since we're in the UK right now, tend to be

2:34.9

luxury. It's like Range Rover and Jaguar. You know, not everyone can afford a British made car.

2:40.2

And I think, you know, as our manufacturing industry has declined, it's become this kind of hub

2:45.3

for luxury goods, even ceramics, you know, we love to buy pottery from the potteries from Stoke-on-Trent, but it's now

2:53.1

these kind of like really niche designer artisanal brands that you pay a premium for.

2:58.8

And I think that's one of my big grievances that it shouldn't be a luxury only for people

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