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Each week we decide who's to blame for historical tragedy.

And each week you tell us if we got it right.

My name is Rebecca Delgado-Smith and this is The Aftermath.

Hey everyone, thanks for tuning into this episode of The Aftermath.

Today we're speaking with guest expert Dr. Heather Ann Thompson.

Dr. Thompson is a historian at the University of Michigan and is a Pulitzer Prize and

Bankroft Prize winning author of Blood in the Water, the Attica Prison Uprising of 1971

and its legacy. Let's hear what she has to say about the Attica Prison Uprising.

Dr. Thompson, thank you so much for joining us today.

Great to be here.

So can you start by giving us some backstory on prison conditions in the United States during the

60s and early 70s? Sure. Well, people will be probably appalled to know that they were in many ways

better than they are today. And they were very, very grim. The 1960s and the 1970s was a period

on the one hand of a lot of programming, a lot of things that we lost in the prison system

as it grew and grew and grew after the 1970s. But at the same time, this was prison and it was

incredibly brutal. It was very inhumane. And the thing was, it was the 60s though and it was the

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