The Afghan Women Writing for Freedom, with Marie Bamyani, Zarghuna Kargar and Lucy Hannah

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🗓️ 18 May 2022

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Afghan women’s voices are at increasing risk of being silenced and as more of their rights slip away, so do their stories. In this episode we hear from three women from the UNTOLD writers programme, who are the co-creators of My Pen is the Wing of a Bird, a new anthology of Afghan women's fiction. Lucy Hannah is founder of UNTOLD, Zarghuna Kargaar is a journalist, translator and author of Dear Zari: Hidden Stories from Women of Afghanistan, and Marie Bamyani is a contributing author featured in My Pen is the Wing of a Bird. Hosting the discussion is Halima Kazem, Afghanistan Oral Histories Project Manager at Stanford University's Hoover Institution and the Chancellor's Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of California Santa Cruz. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, I'm Ian Stirling and I'm with one of McCain's farmers who grow their potatoes hang on these are odd-looking potatoes
0:06.0	That's kale Ian. You do know you need potato to make chips, right?
0:10.5	Yes, but we don't just grow potatoes. We actually rotate different crops to help keep the soil healthy. So we eat McCain chips
0:16.8	I'm helping do some good. Exactly. Yeah, you're supporting the move to regenerative farming
0:22.3	By the way, I do know the difference between kale and potatoes
0:26.1	Of course you do.
0:27.6	McCain, let's all chip in.
0:30.8	I mean Stirling and today I'm at a McCain potato field being chased by a massive war
0:36.4	It's just a lady bird Ian. Well, it had a real war spanner, Jay. Why are they here? Well, we plot wildflowers to help encourage wildlife
0:44.7	Like birds and insects. So we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good. Yeah, exactly. You're supporting the move to regenerative farming
0:52.1	Okay, this time it's definitely a wasp. My life's in danger
0:55.8	Ian, that's a butterfly. McCain, let's all chip in
1:01.2	Welcome to intelligence squared. I'm Connor Boyle coming up on the podcast
1:05.6	We hear from the writers and publishers of the new book celebrating fiction written by women authors in Afghanistan
1:16.8	Our host is the investigative journalist and journalism professor Halima Kazen her work has been largely focused on Afghanistan
1:23.9	feminism and human rights. She's produced stories for outlets ranging from CNN to NPR. Here's Halima with more
1:33.0	Afghan women's voices are at risk of being silenced and as more of their rights slip away. So do their stories
1:41.7	My pen is the wing of a bird
1:43.7	It will tell you those thoughts
1:45.7	We are not allowed to think
1:47.7	Those dreams we are not allowed to dream
1:50.3	These are the words of Batoulai diri an Afghan woman and author from untold a writer development program from marginalized writers in areas of conflict and post conflict
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